[Avodah] lulav on shabbat

[Zev Sero]

Eli Turkel wrote:
>>> EraI = time when 2 days was a safek
>>> EraII = time after the gezerah to keep 2 days in Beitzah
>>>
> 
>>From Zev
>>> 1. The groups keeping 2 days in eraI and eraII are not necessarily
>>> the same.  In eraI it depended on where the messengers actually
>>> reached. In fact there could be a difference between Tishre and Nisan
>>> because the messengers didnt travel on Yom Kippur.
>>> In eraII it depends only ony on the boundaries of EY.
>> Who says so?
> 
> Wasn't sure which part Zev was questioning. Rambam mentions explicitly
> the messengers of Tishre to exclude those of Nisan.
> SA OC 496 discusses only residents of Israel and galuyot. No mention of
> places where the messengers reached as is done by Rambam

But who tells you what the boundaries of "EY" are for this purpose?
How do you know that they aren't "whereever the shluchim went"?



>>> although the story goes that CI and the Griz kept 2nd day lechumra)
>> Was this chumra because they held the halacha *might* be like the
>> Rambam, or was it because they held the halacha is *definitely* like
>> the Rambam and therefore they had a safek whether shluchim came to
>> the site of modern Bnei Brak?

> Both CI (Bnei Brak) and Griz (who was in Jerusalem but outside of the old city)
> requested that there custom of being machmir on the 2nd day be kept a secret.
> It was meant as a personal chumrah and not for the public. It was only
> years after
> their death that the stories came out. Hence, it seems that that they thought
> the halacha "might" be like the Rambam. For the general public they accepted
> the SA against the Rambam

Again, how do you know this?  The facts you recite are perfectly
consistent with the explanation I proposed, so how do you know it's not
correct?
 


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