[Avodah] Qaddish and Women

[rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com]

Saul Guberman's post is great. I think he gave a definitve answer to
my inquiry.

Nevertheless - I will now quibble from a highly traditionalist Yekke POV

NB: For background details read Rav Binyamin Hamburger's Shrashei Minhag
Ashkenaz and the Baer Siddur.

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What is axiomatic about Qaddish?

Not in Shas, but in Midrash

Since it Requires Minyan - therefore is a davar shenikdushah
It is recited primarily by Shatz in a Tzibbur

Elicits responses (Especially yehei sh'mei)

It was given over to Yesomim to say in lieu of leading entire service.
IOW prefernce was to lead davening
But since Yassom might be a Qatan...

Universal Early Model had only a single reciter at a time.

Revised and Reformed for Darchei Shalom to allow multiple simultaneous
zoggers [reciters] (see Baer Siddur)
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The folllowing Yekke traditions exist - but not each one in every qehillah.
    One zogger
    Recited in frony on side of. Shatz
    Tallis is worn (some places) for K'vod Tzibbur (even in yekke
       shuls that have multiple zoggers) even for Arvis

Mah hatzad Hashaveh?

The reciter is acting as defacto Shatz

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Ergo, from this model
No woman may recite alone.

However, she may either do
A shoma'as k'oneh
OR
B recite along with men.

And therefore AIUI a woman reciting alone is doing a davar
shbikdushah. She might as well do bar'chu, or Hazaras Hashatz which are
leading Tzibbur functions

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Unless one says, the Reform of Qaddishto include many removed the shatz
aspect completely. I see no evidence for that point.

I guess the thinking of the permitters of women soloists is: that since
Qatan may lead, therefore a woman may lead too.
This has several implications!

KT
RRW
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