[Avodah] best v. worst;

[Ben Waxman]

In the case about Shabbat, the secular guy is driving to the dati guy's home. You are suggesting that the dati guy go out and perform actual aveirot for the secular guy. 

In the Shabbat case, he would be doing an aveira in any case, so why not have him do a mitzva? mitzva ha'ba b'aveira makes sense when the person in question is mainly a mitzva doer, and then comes up against a situation where to do a mitazva might entail doing an aveira. So don't do the mitzva. But this guy has nothing but aveirot. So this Shabbat, he drives to a Shabbat meal instead of a movie. Hopefully next Shabbat he'll walk.

Ben
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: harveybenton at yahoo.com 
  To: Liron Kopinsky ; avodah 
  Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 2:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [Avodah] best v. worst;


        hb: according to this reasoning, if someone is going out to eat a cheesburger (not on shabbas) one should instead go out and purchase treif meat for him, put cheese on it, and then have him/her make a bracha on it; one could then say........"at least he'll be making a bracha on the food" 
        what happened to the entire concept of "mitzva ha'ba b'aveira"???h
       


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