[Avodah] Tzeni'us and gender roles

[Yitzhak Grossman]

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:30:43 -0400
Meir Shinnar <chidekel at gmail.com> wrote:

...

> Does it mean that some people lack tzniut in their fulfillment of public
> roles? No question  (my favorite example was from a chazzan in my youth,
> who, for Hineni he'ani mimaas, would stride down in his hazzan's hat, saying
> loudly three times   HINENI HINENI HINENI then softly he'ani mi'ma'as ..),

:)  A telling anecdote, to be sure, but it should be noted that there
seems to be a custom, at least in the various minyanim with which I have
prayed, for the Hazzan to silently utter the phrase "ve'af al pi
she'aini kedai ve'hagun le'kach", as well as the subsequent
self-critical phrases beginning with "ve'na al taf'shi'em be'hatosai":

http://www.piyut.org.il/textual/549.html

Yitzhak
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