[Avodah] talmud Torah

[Eli Turkel]

<<I consider it diminished in the sense that it's not the ikkar qiyum
hamitzvah of talmud Torah for the same reasons that it doesn't influence
pesaq>>

Micha brings up a different point that is not completely clear.
What defines Talmud Torah
examples

learning dikduk?
learning Jewish history especially about talmud scholars
learning academic studies of talmud - eg Urbach, E. E., Ba'alei
HaTosafot (The Tosafists)
or perhaps academic articles that study a sugya instead about people
Using game theory to explain a sugya - Aumann
also http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2008/06/10/how-game-theory-solved-a-religious-mystery/

using probability theory to explain Rov and a sugya in kinnim
astronomy for studying kiddush hachodesh and related issues
studies of what was in bet hamikdash/mishkan

I have heard from RYBS that learning gemara on a rabbinic law is a kiyum
of the biblical mirzvah of talmud torah -  is this obvious?


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Eli Turkel