[Avodah] Early morning minyan

kennethgmiller at juno.com kennethgmiller at juno.com
Thu Feb 5 17:32:56 PST 2009


R' Micha Berger asked:
> My question was that we're switching shlichei tzibbur
> in the middle of that chativa. (Or in many yeshivos,
> we have a chazan only for the ending.) How does it
> retain unity?
> Yes, for each chazan as an individual, it's a berakhah
> haseumchah lecheverta, but what preserves that nature
> for the minyan? Or -- I'll add, starting to think of
> answers to my own question -- does the minyan not
> really count for pesuqei dezimra?

Yes, I too suspect that your closing line answers the question.

We need a minyan for kaddish. We need a minyan and a chazan for barchu. We need a minyan for tefila b'tzibur. We need a minyan and a chazan for chazaras hashatz. etc, etc, etc.

But I don't see any need for a minyan for psukei d'zimra. And the only need for a chazan there is to help everyone keep pace, which many minyanim don't bother with. The chazan isn't being motzi anyone with yishtabach.

Switching chazanim between Baruch She'amar and Yishtabach doesn't retain unity. They don't have any unity to retain. (Tzibur-wise, I mean. Each chazan must be sure to say both. It's just that each chazan says one aloud and the other quietly.)

Akiva Miller

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