[Avodah] Early morning minyan
D&E-H Bannett
dbnet at zahav.net.il
Mon Feb 2 15:12:53 PST 2009
Re: RMB's question <<The chazan goes to the teiva before
yishtabach so the kahal can answer Amen at the end of
pesukei d'zimra....>>
Can I flip this around into a question?
Shabbos morning, the Chazan will start at "Shochein Ad".
How is the
berakhah hasumekhah lechavertah nature of Yishtabach
preserved? (Why
doesn't this necessitate adding a "Baruch atah..." to the
front of it?)>>
I don't see any reason why you cannot flip this any way you
like. You as a moderator do need my permission.
Why is Shabbat any different from weekday on this? The
chazan starts on weekdays before yishtabach, to enable an
Amen. Yishtabach is an introduction to the brakha ending
psukei d'zimra. He starts the same way on Shabbat at the
introduction. Nishmat is a lengthened introduction to the
ending of the psukei d'zimra. So the chazan starts a bit
sooner.
Why don't you ask the question where it is more appropriate.
Barukh she-amar the initial brakha is about "uv-shirei David
nehallelkha". And the basic pesukei d'zimra, ending with kol
han'shama tehallel ... is from David. The final brakha to
this section. yishtabach, should be right there at the end
of Tehilim.
But we then insert "foreign material" having nothing to do
with David's shirim and say yishtabach afterwards. Because
of the inserted break in shirei David, perhaps a barukh ata
beginning is appropriate. BTW, siddurei hageonim all have
Yishtabach after kol ha-neshama and say Vayosha' and Az
Yashir after yishtabach, before the kaddish (that is, in the
place where nowadays we are warned that there must be no
interruption).
But, to answer your question. the before and after brakhot
and all the zimra and other paragraphs of praise in between
are one chativa of the tefila. See my long posting just
above. The Shabbat lengthening of the introduction to the
final brakha are not a break. Similarly, kri'at shema beween
the brakhot fore and aft are one chativa and an extra barukh
ata is not added.
The length of the "semukha" of semukha la-chaverta is
variable.
David
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