[Avodah] 7MBNoach: Stricter or Less-Strict?

[Allan Engel]

There is an opinion that under certain circumstances, abortion would be
muttar for Jews but not for non-Jews. The Mishna in Oholos that regards the
mother's life as paramount over the unborn child applies only to Jews.


ADE

2009/1/10 Harvey Benton <harveybenton at yahoo.com>

>    We recently had in the Chumash the episode (according to Chazal) of the
> Brother's of Joseph arguing their status (Jew vs. non-Jew) regarding the
> issue of Ever Min Hachai.
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> The Brothers held themselves to be Jews, and thus were able to eat of a
> still moving animal that had been killed for eating (more maikel) without
> violating AMHachai.  Joseph held that the Brothers were considered
> (pre-Siani?) as non Jews, and thus were bound by the more strict (machmir)
> law of the Sheva Mitzvos Bnei Noah (7MBN) in regard to the AMHachai halacha.
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> But 1. We have the concept of Maalin Bakodesh … and 2. Specifically with
> regards to Geirus, we say that if 2 sisters converted to Judaism, though
> they are technically permitted to the same husband in Judaism because of
> their new status, we don't allow it, so that people should not say that the
> Sisters went from a higher standard (pre-Geirus) to a lower standard
> (post-Geirus).  It appears from this, that we hold Judaism to be of a
> higher standard in strictness than the 7MBN.
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> Here we have 2 cases at apparent odds: 1. Aver Min Hachai where Judasim is
> LESS strict than the 7MBNoach.  and  2. the inyan mentioned (re the 2
> sisters) where we don't want people to say they went to a lower standard
> after converting.  This means we hold Judaism to be MORE strict than the
> 7MBN.
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> I was always under the impression that Judaism is more strict in the laws
> that it has in common with the 7MBN??.  For instance belief in shitfus is
> ok for a non-Jew, but not for Jews.
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