[Avodah] Qumram

[Micha Berger]

On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 06:29:59PM -0400, Zev Sero wrote:
: How old is "ST shektavo min yisaref"?  My speculation depends on that
: being late, from a time after Paul transformed Xianity from a slightly
: odd group within orthodox Judaism into a new religion of ovdei AZ.

Shabbos 116a has it as a machloqes R' Yosi and R' Tarfon in a beraisa:
R' Yosi: on a weekday, cut out the azkaros and burn it, and on Shabbos
    let the whole thing burn
R' Tarfon: burn the whole thing

R' Taphon served in the BHMQ, but also was around to argue with R' Aqiva
after R' Aqiva got to be a bar pelugta.

BTW, back to the discussion of reburying bones, they found an ossuary
labeled "Elisheva eishes Tarfon". It's in the Israel Museum.

What I enjoy about R' Tarfon is that he drives the contemporary minim
nuts. He is both a Shammuti and a frequent meiqil! Totally turns Graetz's
theory about the tannaim and portraying Hillel as a proto-C innovator
on its head.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

-- 
Micha Berger             Spirituality is like a bird: if you tighten
micha at aishdas.org        your grip on it, it chokes; slacken your grip,
http://www.aishdas.org   and it flies away.
Fax: (270) 514-1507                            - Rav Yisrael Salanter