[Avodah] Tisha B'Av on Sunday

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From: "Stuart Feldhamer" _stuart.feldhamer at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:stuart.feldhamer at gmail.com) 


>>The common thread between all the replies is that one hour of not  eating is
not really fasting.



I had thought of that answer but  I find it to be incomplete. You can't have
it both ways. Either it's fasting,  or it isn't. If it isn't fasting, then
there is no need to make a restriction  on eating and drinking during  that
time.<<



Stuart

>>>>>
If  you have already bentshed on an ordinary Shabbos after sholosh seudos, 
and  it's getting dark, you can't eat until havdalah, but that's not called  
"fasting on Shabbos."

 


But I will add a bit more.  The norm is that we always add time to the  
beginning and end of Whatever, to make sure we don't transgress.  So we add  a bit 
to the beginning and end of Shabbos, a bit to the beginning and end of  Tisha 
B'Av, etc.  We never simply have a 24-hour Whatever.
 
Here Shabbos is edging into Tisha B'av and the fuzzy hour is that  hour which 
we have tacked onto the end of Shabbos, which is at the same time the  hour 
we have added to the beginning of Tisha B'Av.  Now, you can look at it  sort of 
like those quantum photons or Schroedinger's cats that are neither  this nor 
that, or maybe both.  That hour is either Shabbos or Tisha  B'Av or somehow 
both if you don't look too closely.  To the degree that  it's Tisha B'Av, that 
hour is already Sunday and you have begun the fast (by not  eating anymore).  
To the degree that it's Shabbos, it's still Saturday and  you are not fasting 
because you have eaten and drunk all day.
 
"You can't have it both ways."  Tell it to Schroedinger's cat.
 


--Toby  Katz
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