[Avodah] TIDE and Austritt

[Richard Wolpoe]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:17 PM, <T613K at aol.com> wrote:

>   From: "Richard Wolpoe" <rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com>
> >>In Holy Name Hospital in Teaneck, the nuns often do things like shave the
> people in a coma. Should we deny both the patient and the nuns this act of
> Hessed lest someone construe them as "legitimate?" <<
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> >>>>
> As a strong proponent of austritt, I can say once again that you don't seem
> to quite understand what austritt entails.  Neither I nor any Orthodox
> rabbi, not even Rabbiner Hirsch himself, would object to a Reform rabbi
> shaving a person in a coma.
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> *--Toby Katz
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>


   1. So if a Reform Rabbi serves as chaplain in Hospital X you are syaing
   unequivocably that it is NOT a recognition of his legitimacy?
   2. And if so, How come Rabbi Salomon Breuer couldn't even TALK about
   Rabbi Nobel's petirah [given that Rabbi Nobel himself was Orthodox!]?
   3. How do you construe the lecture on Tehilim at the JCC on the
   Palisades? Is the inclusion of Non_ Rabbis a fatal flaw in Austritt?
   4. How about the issue of Chanifa brought up before?....

Case in point. I was a gabbai in a RW Yeshiva.  The Baalei Batim were
privlieged to be honoured with pesichos on Yamim Nora'im but NOT the
bachurim, But I was also told NOT to honour any Ba'al Habayyis who had
leather shoes on YK. Ribbono Shel Olam!  The group being honoured included
numerous [not jsut 1 or 2] members who had leather shoes on YK albeit those
in particular were excluded - but those same people had NOT been excluded
during the previous RH.

OTOH the ENTIRE set of yeshiva Bachrurim did NOT have leather on their feet
on YK Shoudlnt' THEY have come first?  Isn't this Chanifa to honour as a
class a set of people who are not uniformly in uniform on the holiest day of
the year in ostensibly the holiest beis midrash in town?


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Kol Tuv / Best Regards,
RabbiRichWolpoe at Gmail.com
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