[Avodah] Selichos teshuvos

Cantor Wolberg cantorwolberg at cox.net
Tue Sep 23 17:46:30 PDT 2008


The following are from several different sources and I’d be very  
interested to hear reactions.

THE CHACHMEI HAKABALAH HAVE REVEALED THAT
BEFORE CHATZOS IT IS A TIME OF “DIN” AND IT
CAN BE EXTREMELY HARMFUL TO RECITE SELICHOS AT THAT TIME.
ONLY AFTER CHATZOS WHEN THE EIS RATZON BEGINS IS IT PROPER
TO SAY SELICHOS. THE MEKUBALIM TREATED THIS ISSUE VERY
SERIOUSLY AND WENT SO FAR AS TO SAY THAT ONE WHO FINDS
HIMSELF IN A SHUL, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE SAYING SELICHOS
BEFORE CHATZOS SHOULD RATHER SIT QUIETLY THAN RESPOND AND
PARTICIPATE IN THE SELICHOS. (SHAREI TESHUVAH, 581).

R’ MOSHE FEINSTEIN WHO RULED THAT IN A
SITUATION WHERE THE TZIBUR WOULD OTHERWISE NOT SAY
SELICHOS THEY MAY SAY SELICHOS BEFORE CHATZOS. RAV
MOSHE ADDS THAT THEY SHOULD HOWEVER SEEK TO RECTIFY THE
SITUATION.

The Shulchan Aruch as well as many of the Rishonim and Acahronim  
pasken that to say it before/earlier or later won’t do any harm but it  
might not be so effective…(that is the end of what Rav Moshe says in  
one of his teshuvas).

R'Ovadia Yosef takes this one step further and mentions that if the  
person cannot wait till after Chatzos or get up at Ashmores Haboker… 
then he should say Selichos at MINCHA!!! Because the time frame after  
Shkia thru Chatzos is not only NOT an Eis ratzon but rather you will  
get Hashem ANGRY. This is also based on divrei Kabbalah

The Rambam in Hilchos Teshuva (3:4) writes: “Umipnei Inyan Zeh Nohagu  
kol beis yisrael leharbos betzedakah…………Vnahagu Kulam Lakum  
BalailahUlihispalel bvatei kenesiyos bdivrei tanchumim uvkivushin AD  
SHEYAOR HAYOM.  Get up at night; conclude by daybreak.
  
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