[Avodah] A QUESTION FOR THE NINE DAYS (AND BEYOND)…

[Richard Wolpoe]

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Michael ORR <michaelorr at rogers.com> wrote:

>
> Notes on the question:
>
> -My observation has been that there is an emphasis on learning mitzvos bein
> adam lamakom, e.g. all Orach Chaim topics.  Although in an important
> sense, the bein adam lamakom orientation is foundational, and so cannot be
> neglected, the paramount importance of addressing sinas chinam based on the
> above sources suggests to me that we are missing something fundamental.
>

I commented on this in a post reL a dispute between R. Hirsch and the Mishna
Brurah.
It seems the MB advocated learni orach Chaim as "the ikkar"
Rabbiner Hirsch lamented that people do NOT learn all 4 parts of the SA and
they are therfore out-of-balance.

Several comments and caveats
Aisi TIDE [not quite like YU/TuM but similar] is opposed to the yeshivisher
hashkafa of all academic Gmara learning w/o being a more balanced
Mensch-Yisreol

The Kitsur SA DOES have many halachos fro mChM and Even Ho'zevr and a LOT of
bein Adam lachveiro

To be VERY fair to the MB himself, his sefarim [viz. Chofetz Chaim and
Shemiras Halashon, not to mention Ahavas Hessed] cover a LOT of bein adam
lachavieroa.  I will even posit that the Sefer Chofetz Chaim is an even
better composed Halachic text than is  the Sefer MB.

-- 
Kol Tuv / Best Regards,
RabbiRichWolpoe at Gmail.com
see: http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/





>
> -The potential for overemphasis on bein adam lamakom mitzvos seems
> especially problematic when there is an emphasis on chumros, which tend to
> divide.  The topic of chumros is complex though, since chumros can also be
> a way of achieving unity.  For example, if one observes all the chumros of
> kashrus, anyone can eat at that person's house – though the down side is
> that they won't be able to eat at other's houses much unless they maintain
> different standards for eating out.
>
> -It seems to me that chumros bein adam lachavero are much less divisive,
> and in fact have a unifying force that chumros in conduct bein adam lamakom
> lack.   In fact the kashrus example seems more an indication that there is
> a bein adam lechavero aspect to kashrus rather than an illustration that
> chumros in mitzvos bein adam lamokom have a unifying force.  The essence
> of accepting a chumra on oneself regarding bein adam lechavero conduct is to
> restrict oneself and in doing so to give more latitude to others.  By
> contrast, accepting a chumra in conduct bein adam lemakom is either neutral
> with respect to one's expectation of others, or more demanding as one would
> implicitly tend to expect the same conduct of others.
>
> -Of course it is important to approach this issue in a constructive and
> positive way that does not use it as a stick for beating other parts of the
> community that may be seen as more blameworthy on this analysis.  (See
> reference to Netziv in R. Willig's article.)
>
> Michael Orr
>
>
>
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