[Avodah] An old Pshat and a Question About Milchig on Shavuos

[Rich, Joel]

	>> The Malochim protested that the Jews should not be given the
Torah.

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	> 

	> 

	> And this you understood? Do malachim have free will to protest
hkb"h's 

	> actions?

	> KT

	> Joel Rich

	 

	Why would you think otherwise? Besides for all the places where
it says that they did actually disobey or could (fruit trees, by kol
nidrei, etc.), what is the sevara not that way? AFAIK, only that the
malachs knowledge is on a much clearer level, but this doesn't preclude
them from choosing to disobey.

	 

	KT,

	MSS 

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	OK, different strokes for different folks. So warring factions
of angels and HKB"H taking sides and angels refusing to do HKB"H's will
would be OK according to your mehalech (sounds parallel to Greek
mythology but I've always been confused by "angels" in tanach vs..
talmud). I was taught "angels"  were beings without free will who did
HKB"H's single and direct command and that any "counterexamples" that I
pointed out needed to be understood as lessons not reality.

	 

	KT
	Joel Rich

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