[Avodah] HQBH speaks through History [was R' Angel & GeirusRedux

[Richard Wolpoe]

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Harry Maryles <hmaryles at yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Please do not conflate TIDE with TuM.  They are two very different
> philosophies, often at odds with each other.  This has been extensively
> discussed on A/A before you came aboard.
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> Very different?
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> How do you define each and why are you so opposed to TuM and supportive of
> TIDE?  I don't see that much of a difference between them. I know you've
> addressed this issue in the past in the course of disscussions on this
> issue. But can you be a bit more specific and do so in a single post? What
> is it about TuM that is not a part of TIDE that makes it so very different -
> that bothers you? ...that makes you believe that it is a wrong Hashkafa?
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> HM
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TuM is can be easilyseen aseither an  Americanized branch of TIDE or a
modernized application of it.

Frankly, RSR Hirsch was a kannai and he sees to feel that everything  has to
fit a VERT specifc narrowly defined model to be kosher . But the truth is
that TIDE, TM and HIldesheimer wre all struggling with frumkeit in a
post-ghetto Westernized world. {So Does Habbad, NCSY,  Young Israel etc.
etc.]

We can NEVER know for sure how RSR Hirsch MIGHT have acted had he been born
in 1908 USA instead of 1808 Germany. He might have become very Revel-Like in
his own way.

Also I recall in the very early days of Avodah, RYGB endorsed TuM as a
philosophy but NOT YU's brand of implementation.

Knowing today what I know about the Hildesheirmer Seminary, I would say that
is defintely my single favorite M-O of thm al. to the extent that YU or HTC
etc. conform, I would applaud it.

Somehow Hildesheimer was able to keep Yir'as Shamayyim on a high level while
still confronting Wissenshaft. I have met very few today who have handled
both successfully.
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Kol Tuv / Best Regards,
RabbiRichWolpoe at Gmail.com
see: http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/
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