[Avodah] Skipping Korbanos

[Elazar M. Teitz]

<<Thirdly, (maybe the Lakewooders can answer this),how many davveners of this mini version of Mincha immediately sit down to learn. And how many simply go home to eat, nap or do shopping?>>

<True, but they have to do that anyway, right? So this way, they get back to second Seder faster. That's the theory, anyway, I think. The other reason I've heard for Heicha Kedusha, BTW, is that it's better to say only three Berachos out loud: It's more likely that the Kahal will be Mechaven with the appropriate Amens for those than if the Chazan would recite all nineteen Berachos.>

     So why is hoiche kedusha nver said on Shabbos? It's easier to be mechaven for three than for seven, too. 

<<I recall once when the local Lakewood Kollel had a Shabaton out of town with one of the guset speakers being Rabbi C Keller from Chicago. Motzeh Shabbos after Maariv I noticed that they didn't say "Veyen Lecho". I queried this with RK, who explained that it isn't said in (Litvish) yeshivos for reasons of 'bitul Torah'.
I asked him to show me a single person in this room, who is now learning Torah?  Teiku.>>

<I don't know, I have never seen V'yiten Lecha said in a Nusach Ashkenaz Shul, whether or not Yeshivish. FWIW, I can never remember seeing it said in a Nusach Sefard Shul, either. I do see some people saying it themselves after Maariv is already over.> 

     If you want to see it said, you're invited to spend a Shabbos in Elizabeth, where all five shuls say it.  If you're in Yerushalayim, go to the Gra shul in Sha'arei Chesed, and daven in the rabbanim's minyan (the one that was attended by RSZA).  They say it.

EMT
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