[Avodah] Ga'on vs. Rishon was Simchas Shabbos , Hot Cheese for Shabbat Lunch

Richard Wolpoe rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Mon May 26 16:33:12 PDT 2008


On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Daniel Israel <dmi1 at hushmail.com> wrote:

> Richard Wolpoe wrote:
> > Tngentially I'm not sure how it came about that if Ga'onim are closer to
> > the Talmud how come Rishonim over-rule them anyway?
> >
> > Is being close in time and place a factor or not?
> >
> > Niskatnu?
>
> AIUI, within an "era" we go by the later authorities.  Do we consider
> the ga'onim distinct from the Rishonim in this sense?  It would seem
> not.  (IOW, is "Gaonic" a halachic concept?)
>
> --
> Daniel M. Israel
> dmi1 at cornell.edu
>
> _


See Taz orach Chaim 46 and a wholeslew of literature re: litrugy
Most litrugy was actually codified inthe Ga'onic era, especially Seder Rav
Amram Gaon and Seder Ram Sa'adyah Ga'on

Rabbeinu Tam leans heavily upon Seder Rav Amram [See I. Ta Sham's quote in
hakdamah to Minhag Asshkenaz Hakadmon
Most/all of those non-Talmudic Brachos are Ga'onic NOT Rishonic [except
perahp like al nekkiyus Yadayyim - Rosh]

Examples:

   1. Baruch Hshem L'olam
   2. Neros Shabbos
   3. Mekadesh es shimcha barabbim
   4. Hanosein layaeif Ko'ach

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As far as Halachic rules on HOW to pasken from Bavli, virtually all are
Ga'onic [some are Sabora'ic but why quibble  [--smile--]

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Rambam at times treats Ga'onic rulings as Talmudic
Rosh does this at others

Poskim give mixed reviews on meat that has not been salted for 3 days [after
al lit's ONLY Ga'onic]

Similarly Ta'anis Esther and Aveilus in Sefira is ONLY Ga'onic but is often
treated as Talmudic.  RYBS even imposes Talmudic stictures on Aveilus of
Sefira which is a late Ga'onic minhag


-- 
Kol Tuv / Best Regards,
RabbiRichWolpoe at Gmail.com
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