<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Daniel Israel <<a href="mailto:dmi1@hushmail.com">dmi1@hushmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">Richard Wolpoe wrote:<br>
> Tngentially I'm not sure how it came about that if Ga'onim are closer to<br>
> the Talmud how come Rishonim over-rule them anyway?<br>
><br>
> Is being close in time and place a factor or not?<br>
><br>
> Niskatnu?<br>
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</div>AIUI, within an "era" we go by the later authorities. Do we consider<br>
the ga'onim distinct from the Rishonim in this sense? It would seem<br>
not. (IOW, is "Gaonic" a halachic concept?)<br>
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--<br>
Daniel M. Israel<br>
<a href="mailto:dmi1@cornell.edu">dmi1@cornell.edu</a><br>
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_</blockquote></div><br>See Taz orach Chaim 46 and a wholeslew of literature re: litrugy<br>Most litrugy was actually codified inthe Ga'onic era, especially Seder Rav Amram Gaon and Seder Ram Sa'adyah Ga'on<br>
<br>Rabbeinu Tam leans heavily upon Seder Rav Amram [See I. Ta Sham's quote in hakdamah to Minhag Asshkenaz Hakadmon<br>Most/all of those non-Talmudic Brachos are Ga'onic NOT Rishonic [except perahp like al nekkiyus Yadayyim - Rosh]<br>
<br>Examples:<br><ol><li>Baruch Hshem L'olam</li><li>Neros Shabbos</li><li>Mekadesh es shimcha barabbim</li><li>Hanosein layaeif Ko'ach<br></li></ol> ==================================================================<br>
<br>As far as Halachic rules on HOW to pasken from Bavli, virtually all are Ga'onic [some are Sabora'ic but why quibble [--smile--] <br><br>=====================================================================<br>
Rambam at times treats Ga'onic rulings as Talmudic<br>Rosh does this at others <br><br>Poskim give mixed reviews on meat that has not been salted for 3 days [after al lit's ONLY Ga'onic]<br><br>Similarly Ta'anis Esther and Aveilus in Sefira is ONLY Ga'onic but is often treated as Talmudic. RYBS even imposes Talmudic stictures on Aveilus of Sefira which is a late Ga'onic minhag <br>
<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>