[Avodah] Dancing on Shabbos

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Tue May 13 13:51:18 PDT 2008


I just wrote in reply to RRW:
:: So give me the sources for dancing on Shabbos against codified
:: Mishna!...

: The Rama (OCh 339:3) cites the Tosafos (Beitzah 30a "Tenan"). They are
: meikil on the gezeirah of instruments, since no one tunes their own
: instruments where they actually are tunable.

: It's clear from the Rambam's formulation (Shaabos 32:4), who stresses
: the connection implied in the mishnah -- the issur is against rhythm. We
: discussed something similar in parshanus: there is indication that
: mecholos is a kind of dancing, and another that it was an intrument. If
: dancing, it's a dance that focusses on producing a rhythm with one's
: feet. Don't tap dance.
: 
: Is that a weak justification? Yes. It would require strong support from
: outside the textual formalism realm in order to become pesaq...

More "textual formal" sources: Toras Shabbos OCh 339:2 uses a Y-mi which
defines dancing as only including movement where one foot is coming off
the floor before the other fully lands.

The AhS (ibid #2) explicitly makes the "as a rhythm instrument"
argument.

BTW, again the Minchas Elazar is meiqil -- but only for people dancing
because they were carried away by the experience of Shabbos! (Not by
people trying to get carried away, etc...)

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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