[Avodah] Is having a good time ossur

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Thu Apr 10 14:35:57 PDT 2008


On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:42:40AM -0400, Richard Wolpoe wrote:
: If you read Rishonim and  omit Acharonim the  issurim  on Sefirah seem
: limitted to:
:    1. Taspores
:    2. nissu'in
:    3. some kind of mleacha [shabasos tihyena]

See the first tweo halakhos of the AhS, he implicitly deals with this
question.

In the first se'if, he writes that during the geonim, it became customary
to mark the loss of R' Aqiva's students with a minhag not to make weddings
during the omer. In the 2nd se'if he writes about the Crusades reaching
Germany during this period, and then brings in the notion of aveilus.
This would mean that our current observance of aveilus grew out of events
in 1096, and may not have been fully developed in the Ramban's day.

...
:> The flipside of this is that RYBS would assur parties during omer or
:> the three weeks even without music.

: WADR to RYBS this is sourcesless in Rishonim.  The point of sefirah is
: MITkTZAS aveilus. the Rav tried to morph it into FULL_SCALE aveilus.  See
: both Tur and KItsar SA  for the  list of miktzas

I also feel he shoehorned things that didn't really match, which is why
I will open with a request that one of RYBS's chassidim field this one.

But obviously he didn't give a shiur on the subject without lengthy
background. Rashei peraqim: RYBS defines aveilus as only coming in three
flavors: shiv'ah, sheloshim, and shanah. And thus, miqtzas aveilus would
be a term for the least level. Same as his model for the differences
between bein hametzarim, the 9 days, and 9 beAv itself.


Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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