[Avodah] Selichos - Especially before Midnight

[Micha Berger]

On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 11:37:23PM -0400, Richard Wolpoe wrote:
: What DOES make sense to me is that if you removed ALL Qabblistic sources
: there is AFAIK zero Halachic considerations for not saying Selichos earlier
: than Midnight.
: 
: And possibly this is what is meant by Yekkishe...

I once wondered on list whether Yekkes lack the minhag to say Berikh
Shemei, or whether they explicitly removed it -- whether because of
"ana avda", post-Sabbatean fears of Qabbalah, or some other reason.

The difference would be whether a yekke in a Berikh Shemei reciting minyan
should say it with the tzibbur because he has no reason to be poreish,
or whether he has an explicit minhag mandating he miss it.

FWIW, I do not understand RYS's point about "ana avda", since I assume
he didn't omit "ani avdekha ben amasekha".

Last, don't Yekkes wash neigl vasr or before bread in their respective
distinctive right-left patterns? I know Bal'adi Teimanim just pour the
cup over each hand any which way. But I thought Yekkes do follow this
qabbalistic practice.

GCT!
-mi

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