[Avodah] Selichos before Chatzos

Dov Kay dov_kay at hotmail.co.uk
Tue Sep 11 02:19:21 PDT 2007


<<And even Qabblists say the following: You are supposed to go thru 4
levels  before Amidah vi the structure of Birchos Hashachar, Korbanonos,
Psukei Dezimar and Shema etc.  BUT when you are late you daven with the
tzibbur and throw away the structure. As one Qabblist explained in class -
that is the power of the Tzibbur.>>

I am also no savant of Kabbalah.  However, I understand that minhag Chabad 
and the p'sak of the Ben Ish Chai is that latecomers, r'l, do not skip the 4 
levels even in order to daven the Amidah b’tzibbur.

With regard to Selichos, RMF in IG permitted an early recitation (ie before 
chatzos, but preferably at 1/3 of the night), but only as a horaas shaah for 
one year (his words) and on the basis that an announcement be made to that 
effect.  I don't think you can bring a proof from YK, as this is clearly a 
sui generis eis ratzon.

Kol tuv
Dov Kay

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