[Avodah] [Areivim] Accepting donations

[Michael Kopinsky]

Carried over from Areivim...

On 8/16/07, SBA <sba at sba2.com> wrote:

> From: "Marty Bluke" > A related point is that all the ads that I see these
> days for
> > inistitutions like Kupot Hair all promise some return to the giver
> > like Talmidei Chachamim will daven for you etc. This seems to be a new
> > phenomenon. Since when do we give tzedaka to get something back?
>
> Chazal say 'ha'omer sela zu litzedoko bishvil sheyichyu bonay uvishvil
> she'ezkeh ba lechayei haolom habo - harei zeh tzaddik gomur..'
>
> SBA


To strengthen your point:  IIRC the lashon of the Gemara is "al m'nas
sheyichye...".

However, the way I understood the Gemara is that *even* if you give tzedaka
for a purpose,  you're still a tzadik.  That doesn't mean you *should* give
for a reason.  (Notice that it says tzadik, not chasid.  Based on the
Mesilas Yesharim's chiluk between the two, this makes sense.)

I remembering seeing a Teshuva once (maybe Shu"t haRashb"a - I saw it on the
Bar Ilan CD, so I don't remember what it was) asking about a person who
said, "I will give tzedaka if my son gets well, and I won't give tzedaka if
my son doesn't get well."  The question was, can you force him to give the
tzedaka in any case, enforcing the Mishna in Pirkei Avos, "Al Tihyu
ka'avadim."  The answer was that no he doesn't have to give the tzedaka.

KT,
Michael
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