[Avodah] chumrot of sefardim

Minden phminden at arcor.de
Fri May 11 00:09:29 PDT 2007


RET wrote:
> I assume that means that according to him a Sefardi who hears kiddush friday night from an Ashkenazi is not yotzeh with most wines and grape juices on the market.

I don't understand this and other cases where minnek and heloche aren't distinguished. Often, the catch is one of focalisation ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focalization ), I suppose.

Either (you assume) the din is this wine won't do. In that case, the Ashkenazzi isn't youtze either.

Or (you assume) the din allows it, only a regional chumre or otherwise minnek says not to. In that case the Seforaddi/Mizrahi is youtze, too, at least bedieved. Even lechatchile, there are aspects like honouring another in general and a host in particular that might override menogem and chumres.

Or you have a sofek what the din is, then it depends on the exact details and the Rules of the Art of Sfeikes, but there's certainly no difference in din for Jews whose ancestors happened to live in Spain and Iraq vs Germany, is there?

LPhM



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