[Avodah] When do the malachim come

[Yaakov Moser]

>
> As I understand it, the poskim take Malachim very seriously. An uncle of
> mine once recounted a Machlokes between R' MF and RYBS (sorry, I have no
> Mareh Mekomos) as to what direction one should turn for Bo'ee B'shalom
> when the entrance of the Shul is not in back. IIRC, the Machlokes
> revolved upon their respective understandings of how Malachim act - no
> cynicism or Chassidism involved. 
>
> KT,
> MYG
>
>
> I have not heard of the R'YBS R'MF machloket but have heard 2 reasons
> given for turning towards back.  One that the shchina is in the west and
> since in the "standard' galut shul (e.g. europe) the aron faces east and
> the doors are in the west (so walk in facing aron), you turn around
> (which happens to be where the doors are) - the prescriptive fetail is
> the west.   Others say prescriptive detail is doors (to greet the
> shchina)
> KT
> Joel Rich
>   



RHS brings the RMF-RYBS in Nefesh HaRav page 157 - RYBS held it was to 
greet Shabbat, and thus he and other Gedolim in Europe would walk to the 
door to greet the Shabbat bride coming through the door. RMF holds it is 
for the Shechina, which is always in the West, even if the door is in 
another directions. See there for sources.

Jason Moser
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