[Avodah] zman hadloko erev Shabbos and motzoei Shabbos

[Zev Sero]

T613K at aol.com wrote: 
> RZS writes:

>> So it remains theoretically *possible* that the stars visible before
>> 4 millin are all what Chazal called "gedolim", and only the ones that
>> become visible then are "beinonim", and perhaps the "kochavim ketanim"
>> are ones that are too small or distant for us *ever* to see with the
>> naked eye

> I don't buy it.  There is no way Chazal could have spoken of "kochavim 
> ketanim" and intended the average person over the last 2000 years to 
> understand that term to mean "invisible stars."  It is just too
> implausible.

You don't have to buy it.  It remains possible that those who supported
what we call "shitas RT" bought it.

Nor is it relevant what the "average person" was to understand, since
the shiur of 3 middling stars was not given to the average person, but
to experts in astronomy.  It was for the benefit of the rest of us,
who wouldn't know how to classify a star's magnitude if our lives
depended on it, that the other shiurim were given.

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