[Avodah] Ma'aseh eretz Mitzrayim

[Zev Sero]

T613K at aol.com wrote:
>  >>  A subset of the first opinion is
>  > that if they just sleep together once they are married.>> [--old TK}
> 
> RZS writes:
>  >>I don't think this is tenable, because it would seem to eliminate
> the position of kedesha.  The pasuk says "lo tihyeh kedesha bivnot
> yisrael", which implies that there is no such prohibition for BN.
> And Yehudah seems to have had no more than mild embarrassment at
> admitting to having been with one, so long as that admission was
> limited to his partner, and to discreet enquiries of people in the
> immediate vicinity.<<
>  
> .
>  >>>>
> My impression is that the opinion that sleeping together once makes BN 
> "married" is distinctly a minority opinion.  In any case, sleeping with 
> many men -- even if you say the woman is "marrying" each of these men -- 
> is classified as promiscuity and thus would probably be forbidden to a 
> Noahide woman.

Where does this prohibition come from?  Again, "lo tihyeh kedesha
*bivnot yisrael*".


> As for your contention that Yehuda seemed only "mildly" embarrassed, my 
> reading of the same pesukim is that he was VERY embarrassed and must 
> often have asked himself, "What on /earth/ came over me?!"

He had no problem telling his partner what he had done, or having his
partner go about in his name making discreet enquiries of the people
in the immediate vicinity, even though they must have understood what
this meant.  He only became embarrassed when those enquiries proved
insufficient, and it seemed that finding the woman would require a
larger-scale effort which would make him the subject of general gossip.
This is the behaviour of someone who is guilty of a social indiscretion
rather than a serious offense.


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