[Avodah] Ma'aseh eretz Mitzrayim

[T613K at aol.com]

>>  A subset of the first opinion is 
> that if they  just sleep together once they are married.>> [--old TK}

RZS  writes:
>>I don't think this is tenable, because it would seem to  eliminate
the position of kedesha.  The pasuk says "lo tihyeh kedesha  bivnot
yisrael", which implies that there is no such prohibition for  BN.
And Yehudah seems to have had no more than mild embarrassment  at
admitting to having been with one, so long as that admission  was
limited to his partner, and to discreet enquiries of people in  the
immediate vicinity.<<
 
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>>>>
My impression is that the opinion that sleeping together once makes BN  
"married" is distinctly a minority opinion.  In any case, sleeping with  many men 
-- even if you say the woman is "marrying" each of these men -- is  classified 
as promiscuity and thus would probably be forbidden to a Noahide  woman.
 
As for your contention that Yehuda seemed only "mildly" embarrassed, my  
reading of the same pesukim is that he was VERY embarrassed and must often have  
asked himself, "What on /earth/ came over me?!" -- as this was such NOT typical 
 behavior for him, plus, he was no youngster when all this was going on.   
(He had to wait to read Rashi to find out that, indeed, "what came over him" was 
 supernaturally induced and not an aspect of his bechira.  At least I think  
it's a Rashi.)

--Toby  Katz
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