[Avodah] Bnei Noach

[Micha Berger]

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:35:20 -0500, R Zev Sero <zev at sero.name> wrote:
> R Micha Berger wrote:
>> On Thu, October 26, 2006 3:05 pm, R Zev Sero wrote:
>> : Inventing a new religion, it seems to me, is assur to a BN for the
>> : same reason that it's assur to us; it is a denial of the Torah, and
>> : therefore against the things all humans are required to believe.
>> : This fits in with the fact that BN not only have to actually keep
>> : the 7M, but must do so because Hashem told Moshe Rabbenu that they
>> : must....

>> This requirement is specifically the Rambam's, though. AFAIK, it's a da'as
>> yachid.

> Is it?  Who disputes it?  If the Rambam is the only one to express
> an opinion on the subject, then it doesn't qualify as a daat yachid.

Actually, we both erred. It's not required by the Rambmam. The Rambam requires belief that the mitzvos are from Sinai for someone to qualify as a Ger Toshav. Here's RDR's post from v14 (old) n14 -- the second time he corrected me on it:

: No.  I thought I'd quoted this before, but here it is again: "If someone
: fulfills the 7 Mitzvoth because they seem reasonable (mipnei hechrea daato)
: he is not a resident alien (ger toshav) and is not a pious gentile.  Instead
: he is a wise gentile (H. Melachim ed. Frankel 8:11)."  The Vilna edition has
: a different text but RZV emended it as in Frankel's text.  There's no
: requirement there to beleive that God told him to do them: he's fulfilled
: the 7 Mitzvos, which is all that's asked of him.  His only disadvantage is
: that he can't become a ger toshav, and thus suffers certain debilities.

:-)BBii!
-mi

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