[Avodah] min happesochim umin hazzevochim

[Minden]

Dr. Guggenheimer in his "Scholarly Haggadah" writes (p. 323-4):

"The manuscript sources of the Talmudim have either "there we shall eat from the Pesah sacrifices and the family offerings" or "there we shall from the Pesah sacrifices."  The family offering is the festive sacrifice ([hagiga]) offered on the Fourteenth of Nisan according to the rules of [zebah shelamim], a sacrifice in redemption of a vow (Lev. 3).  The order followed today, "there we shall eat from the family offerings and Pesah sacrifices, " appears in the text of Maimonides and, as an explicit correction of the mishnaic text, in the collection of decisions and rules from the school of R. Meir of Rothenburg known as Mordokhai (Pesahim, p. 66a), with the justification that the zewah [sic], the family sacrifice, precedes the Pesah in the order of the meal.  [...]  In some Ashkenazic circles one follows the rule of R. Jacob Weilla [sic] (Responsa MaHaRIW #193)  [footnote 292] to recite the benediction in the original order of the Mishna, "from the Pesah sacrifices and he fami
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offerings" if the Seder is held Saturday night since then it was not possible to slaughter the hagigah during the Sabbath and only the Pesah was offered since its slaughter, by biblical commandment, is required on the Fourteenth of Nisan and therefore overrides the Sabbath prohibition of slaughter in general. The medieval Sefer Ha'ittur [footnote 293] reports the R, Jacob of Orléans (martyred in the pogrom of London, Sept. 3, 1189) for this reason did not put an egg on the Seder plate on Saturday night. The author notes that there are other reasons than the Sabbath that also eliminate the obligation to bring a hagigah and therefore nothing should be changed Satuday night.  This is also the opinion of his contemporary, R. Isaac, the nephew of Rabbenu Tam, known as RI, the greatest halakhic authority among the Tosafists (Tosafot Pesahim 114b, s.v. [ehad]) [footnote 294] and, therefore, the generally accepted practice is not to make any changes.

292. uksheyavo pesah bemotza-e shabbath yomar min happesahim umin hazzevahim de-en hegiga kereva beshabbath uvlel sheni yomar min hazzevahim umin happesahim dehegiga ne-ekheleth kodem happesah, vehu haddin bish-ar yemoth hashshavua.

293. veshamati al r. ya-ekov mei-orleans lo haya ose bepesah shehal lihyoth bemotza-e shabbath ella tavshil ehad lefi she-en hegiga doha keditnan ematay mevi immo hegiga bizman shebba betahara ku' ubahol ubammo-ed ve-al yeshanne adam d'"k keshebba bahol en ba-in betahara ve-en mevi-in immo hegiga.

294. keshehal y"d lihyoth beshabbath en tzarikh rak bishshul ehad dehegigath y"d eni doha shabbath umihu omer r"y demikkol makom en lehallek dedame lehova im hayinu menihim milla-esot shene tavshilin vegam yesh lahush shemma lo ya-esu bish-ar pesahim.


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