[Avodah] asara betevet

[Zev Sero via Avodah]

On 12/24/2015 12:32 PM, Eli Turkel via Avodah wrote:
>
>> There *is* an opinion that in the hypothetical case that Asara B'Tevet
>> were to fall on Shabbos we would fast, but I believe the only reason
>> this opinion gets the play that it does is because it's only hypothetical.
>> If it were possible for it to actually happen we would not give this
>> opinion any consideration, and in fact it might never have been advanced
>> at all, since its originator would have known that we don't do that. >>

> Ohr Sameach (Hil Taanait 5:6) seems to disagree with this. The gemara
> in Eruvin 40b asks if one who has an individual fast on friday must
> complete the fast. Ohr Sameach asks why is the question only on an
> individual fast and not a taanit tzibur. He answers that since we
> would fast asarah betevet on shabbat certainly we fast on friday and
> so there is no question. Therefore, the gemara only asked about
> taanit yachid. Thus Ohr Sameach takes the gemara of fasting on
> shabbat very literally.

What gemara?  It's not a gemara, it's a chiddush of the Abudraham.
And I claim that if it were not merely hypothetical he might never
have proposed it in the first place, and if he did it would have
remained an obscure daas yachid and would not have been quoted by
anyone.  That the Or Sameach takes it seriously is again only because
it's merely hypothetical.


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