[Avodah] asara betevet

Eli Turkel via Avodah avodah at lists.aishdas.org
Thu Dec 24 09:32:40 PST 2015


<<Once again, AFAIK there is no reason at all to believe that if it any
other fast fell on a Friday it would be delayed.  The only fast that
*is* delayed if it falls on a Friday is Yom Kippur, not because it's
a fast (since it's delayed to Shabbos!) but because of the issur
melacha.

There *is* an opinion that in the hypothetical case that Asara B'Tevet
were to fall on Shabbos we would fast, but I believe the only reason
this opinion gets the play that it does is because it's only hypothetical.
If it were possible for it to actually happen we would not give this
opinion any consideration, and in fact it might never have been advanced
at all, since its originator would have known that we don't do that. >>

Ohr Sameach (Hil Taanait 5:6) seems to disagree with this. The gemara in
Eruvin 40b asks if one who has an individual fast on friday must complete
the fast. Ohr Sameach asks why is the question only on an individual fast
and not a taanit tzibur. He answers that since we would fast asarah betevet
on shabbat certainly we fast on friday and so there is no question.
Therefore, the gemara only asked about taanit yachid. Thus Ohr Sameach
takes the gemara of fasting on shabbat very literally.

psak: Mechaber (249:4) says one completes an individual fast from friday
through shabbat and the Ramah disagrees and says that one completes the
fast only for a public taanait.

-- 
Eli Turkel
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