[Avodah] Rambam on False Messiahs

saul newman saulnewman18 at gmail.com
Fri Aug 30 08:43:04 PDT 2013


from the tenor of  rMB and r ZS   discussion ,  it sounds  like  mashiach
is  sent  without the Dor being worthy necessarily ,   but  then the klal
blows  the opportunity .

 so why did  eliyahu say  'hayom, im bekolo  tishma'u?'   the implication
is that the Dor need be worthy  first ;

and furthermore,  the  prophetic descriptions of his  spiritual powers ,
one would think ,  would not  lend self  to further spiritual
 deterioration of the Dor.

 ironic,  was Bar  Kochva from the great Gedolei Hador ?   one thinks  in
terms of Mashiach as looking like r elyashiv  , not a frum  Ramatka''l.....

i wonder  what  a  pseudo-messiah would have to look like  to be able to
convince the Einei Haeidah
[and that would  essentially mean as  the 'gdolim' across the spectrum,
 and  the 'amcha' as well]--
eg  the recent generation's  claimant to the messianic title , great as he
was , was rejected  +unanamously+   by  all other than the followers  .  so
if the messiah  would be magnitudes greater than that ,   i am not sure  a]
how only  one of the gdolim [ ala r akiva ]  would follow him; and how
 potentially the generation could in spite of that spiritually deteriorate
leading to his decoronation , let's call it.....
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