[Avodah] Grape Juice

Kenneth Miller kennethgmiller at juno.com
Tue Jul 23 15:33:24 PDT 2013


R' Martin Brody wrote:

> All "best wine" is of course personally subjective, but
> it cannot be something that has been deliberately spoiled
> by cooking.

Why not? Do you deny that the Rama 272:8 explicitly allows mevushal wine, if it is better than the non-mevushal?

> That people enjoy that taste does not magically make it
> wine. That it is permitted by poskim for sacramental
> purposes still doesn't make it wine.

Okay, fine. Let's not discuss the meaning of the English word "wine". Would you agree that those poskim who allow it for sacramental purposes also hold that the bracha is Hagafen (or Hagefen)?

Akiva Miller
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