[Avodah] the 7 nations

[Lisa Liel]

On 7/21/2013 12:37 AM, Jay F Shachter wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:38:18AM -0500, Lisa Liel wrote:
>>      
>>> Well, there's a midrash that explains why the Girgashi are missing
>>> from so many of those. They got Yehoshua's letters and fled to
>>> Africa.  I don't know about the rest.
>>>        
>> Rashi Shemos 32:2, 34:11.
>>
>> How does that line up with the date Carthage (Kart Chadasht --
>> Newburg?) was founded by the Phoenicians? ...
>> -Micha
>>      
> The question is not when Carthage was built.  If the Phoenicians did
> colonize North Africa in response to our arrival in Canaan, Carthage
> in any event would not have been the first colony that they built.
> Utica would have to be older than Carthage, for simple etymological
> reasons.
>    

What RJS is implying, without explaining, is that Utica is considered to 
be cognate to the Hebrew Atiq, meaning ancient.

Lisa