[Avodah] Chatzi Shiur is not Assur Min HaTorah

Rabbi Meir G. Rabi, its Kosher! rabbi at itskosher.com.au
Thu Sep 12 16:52:21 PDT 2013


See the Meiri on the Mishneh Yuma, Re the Machlokes R Yochanan and Reish
Lakish.
But before we go there think about this, the Torah commands that we torment
ourselves, VeIniSam, and we would assume this means no eating or drinking
at all, after all the Torah is not prohibiting eating but demanding
affliction. Yet the onus is upon Rebbi Yochanan to argue his case that a
Chatzi Shiur IS Assur. And he does not point to the Passuk but needs to
argue a Sevara [another outstanding proof for the superiority of Sevara
over a Passuk - Lama Li Kera]
We might also ask, how does Reish Lakish, who permits Chatzi Shiur, explain
the Passuk VeIniSam?

The Meiri explains that Chatzi LeItzTaRufey means that one has initiated
his eating intending to eat a complete Shiur. However one who intends from
the outset to eat less than a complete Shiur is not transgressing a Torah
prohibition. He accordingly explains why an oath taken to eat a Chatzi
Shiur on Yom Kippur is valid and binding; it is not an oath that violates a
Torah prohibition.

so in fact everyone agrees that by Torah law we may eat on Yom Kippur a
Chatzi Shiur

We must conclude that affliction by not eating is more than the simple
denial of food since by Gd's word we may eat and yet consider ourselves
afflicted. Affliction, we must conclude, reflects upon a state of mind. Not
being able to eat the way one normally does is affliction.

We find in a similar vein that we may fast on Shabbos in order to relieve
ourselves of being tormented by a bad dream. Fasting is in this case, this
person's Oneg.
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