[Avodah] What was AA's Hetter to endanger his people

[Zev Sero]

On 6/11/2011 11:42 AM, Micha Berger wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 08:38:59AM -0500, Zev Sero wrote:
>> >  On the contrary, the halacha explicitly permits "milchemet reshut".
>> >  And the gemara says that a kingdom that wipes out a sixth of the world's
>> >  population in a war is within its rights.

> A milchemes reshus isn't just for finances, though.

Sure it is.  "Milchemes horeshus is a war that he wages with other
nations to expand Israel's border and to increase his greatness and
fame."  A war fought when there's an actual invasion from an enemy is
milchemes mitzvah.


> In David haMelekh's case, they weren't just stealing the straw,
> they were thereby threatening the rule of law in a boarder city and
> thus nibbling at the edges of his sovereignty.

What straw are you talking about?  "Lechu pishtu yedchem bigdud"; it's
*we* who want to steal *their* "straw", not the other way around!  And
we have the right to do so, even though soldiers will inevitably be
lost.


> The other example we have from David haMelekh is his conquering Suria.
>In neither case was it simply about money.

Then what was it about?


> There is a machloqes tannaim as to whether a preemptive war is a
> milkhemes mitzvah, or a milkhemes reshus that happens to be compelling
> for other reasons. Difference only being whether a chasan and kallah
>  are drafted.

Where is this machlokes?  In any event the halacha is paskened, and
milchemes reshus has nothing to do with preempting an enemy attack.


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Zev Sero        If they use these guns against us once, at that moment
zev at sero.name   the Oslo Accord will be annulled and the IDF will
                 return to all the places that have been given to them.
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