[Avodah] Targumim from Sinai

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Fri May 22 15:28:18 PDT 2009


David R
> It's a mishna.  See Yadayim 4:3, Bartenura and Tosafos Yom Tov ad. loc.

Blackman ad loc
    A Traditonal Law compare qiddushin 38b eduyos 8:7 Avos 1:1
    Such traditons were accepted without question or argument

Or similarly an Old Tradition that is axiomatic.

Albeck quoting Rash - viz. R Shimshon miSens - ad. Loc

HLMM: lav davka she'ein zo min haTorah ela k'ilu hu HLMM.

Thus Maharil's use of "misinai meoldies" probably means;
"Ancient and not to be altered anymore."
IOW a done deal.

Ad kan sources.

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Opinion:
For early Tannaim anything establsihed by anshe knesses hagdoloah

For later Tannaim:
Anything ruled by Beis Din Hagadol and was settled by formal vote.

See Rambam Mamrim 1 whch shows that in the "good old days matters were
settled by BDhG." And once voted upon are axiomatic because Yavneh
could no longer challenge it. And opinions went public outside the
realm of BDhG

Also see Iggeres der. Sherira Gaon on how machlokes in the mishna is 99.9%
post Churban Bayis

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Beniddon didan:
Targum Onkelos and Targum Yonassan on Nach have been canonized.

If you look at old mikraos gedolos in the old Gmara Column format with
Rashi in the inner column, etc.
The Text of Tanach has its Targum in the center with a parallel column.
IOW every peurush from Rashi onwards was qualitatively on a different
madreiga. The Targumim were kim'at Mikra. This is codified in Tur
et. al. Re: shnayim Mikra v'echad Targum.

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Tangential is the question is another Targum kosher for "Shm"os"? EG an
English translation.

GS
RRW
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