[Avodah] bribes

[Yitzchok Zirkind]

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Zev Sero <zev at sero.name> wrote:

>   Where do you get this distinction from, if the Dayon is not allowed to
>> take your not allowed to give.
>>  Find a Dayon Hogun.
>>
>
> In general, that is not up to a person, is it?  A person doesn't get to
> pick the judge that will handle his case.  Nor does he necessarily
> get to pick the court.  Remember 1) we're not just talking about batei
> din yisrael;


I was talking only about (jewish) Dayonim, (in a case of BN much can be
discussed see Minchas Chinuch Mitzvah 23).


> 2) even in BD, a BD kavua (which would be the normal case)
> can compel jurisdiction;

3) without a BD kavua generally one party has
> the right to pick the BD, and the other party must go along with it;
> 4) even in ZaBLA, a person signs a shtar borerut on the understandable
> assumption that the dayanim are honest - what is he to do once he
> realises that that is not the case?


IOW the question is can someone be Oiver a Lav to save himself money? or can
he be Oiver a Lav to save the other side from Gezel?

Kol Tuv,
Yitzchok Zirkind
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