[Avodah] (Neviim & Possible Mistakes); Akeidah & Yizchak

hankman salman at videotron.ca
Thu Jun 11 12:56:52 PDT 2009


RYZ wrote:
I think it is Poshut.  My Hechrech is if there is times that they don't
understand part or all of a Nvuoh, how come the Rambam does not write so
Mfurosh, that would be the screaming difference between Moshe and others.

CM  responds:
I think that the Rambam does so. It is part and parcel of the difference in the "aspaklaria sh'eina meira." The guaranteed pisron is for that part of the mareh that Hashem intends the novi to understand. Here the nature of the aspaklaria does not get in the way. Hashem of course understands the details of the novi's human frailties and thus his aspaklaria (the level of which is unique to each novi) and insures that the message he wants received by the novi gets through. To say otherwise, implies the inability of Hashem to convey a particular message to a given novi, which of course can not be.

In your opinion how in fact do you account for the aspaklaria sh'eina meira? Why is that not an automatic lack of complete pisron with every nevuoh but those of Moshe? And then in fact the taane of RDR and RRW (I think) makes sense - how do you differentiate between them (Moshe and other neviim) in this detail.

Consider: Chazal tell us that a shifcha at krias Yam Suf saw more the Yechezkel ben Buzi saw in his mareh. It can not mean they saw different maros, because then the comparison would be meaningless - of course they saw different things - its comparing apples to oranges. But, this must mean they saw the same (or similar) mareh but the clarity (the aspaklaria) was clearer at the Yam. Yet if they saw the same mareh (and as you claim) the pisron for the entire mareh is understood fully then they should have both seen the same pisron!

RYZ wrote:
I don't get it, Kovesh Nvuosoi is Chayov Misah Byidei Shomayum (Rambam 9:2).
Klapei Shmayo Galya.

CM responds:
Good point, I agree.

RYZ wrote:
So if a Novi has to relate even a Moshol w/o a Pisron, so what does define
what the Novi relates

CM responds:
The simple answer is that it must be part and parcel of the message the novi receives. Just as the intended recipient of the nevuoh must be part of the nevuoh, so to is which part/s should be transmitted. Even according to you, the novi can only understand which part to repeat if somehow this was a part of the message he "understood on his own." (He doesn't make this up on his own.)

RYZ wrote:
Again nowhere does the  Rambam say that at times he doesn't understand it or
a part of it.

CM responds:
Although you are right - nowhere does the Rambam state this explicitly. Nevertheless I think it is muchrach to be so, otherwise how to differentiate between what the shifcha at kriasYam Suf and Yecheskel ben Buzi saw (understood) of the Massei Merkava. I think he (Rambam) took this as a given. But if you press me, I could read it into YT 7:6 where the Rambam in differentiating  nevuas Moshe states: "... roeh hadovor al buryov belo chida ubelo moshol..." IE. It is the lack of clarity due to the aspaklaria that leave the part of the pisron shrouded from the other neviim.

Kol Tuv

Chaim Manaster
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