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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>RYZ wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>I think it is Poshut. My Hechrech is if there is times that they
don't<BR>understand part or all of a Nvuoh, how come the Rambam does not write
so<BR>Mfurosh, that would be the screaming difference between Moshe and
others.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think that the Rambam does so. It is part and
parcel of the difference in the "aspaklaria sh'eina meira." The guaranteed
pisron is for that part of the mareh that Hashem intends the novi to understand.
Here the nature of the aspaklaria does not get in the way. Hashem of course
understands the details of the novi's human frailties and thus his aspaklaria
(the level of which is unique to each novi) and insures that the message he
wants received by the novi gets through. To say otherwise, implies the inability
of Hashem to convey a particular message to a given novi, which of course can
not be.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In your opinion how in fact do you account for the
aspaklaria sh'eina meira? Why is that not an automatic lack of complete pisron
with every nevuoh but those of Moshe? And then in fact the taane of RDR and RRW
(I think) makes sense - how do you differentiate between them (Moshe and other
neviim) in this detail.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Consider: Chazal tell us that a shifcha at krias
Yam Suf saw more the Yechezkel ben Buzi saw in his mareh. It can not mean
they saw different maros, because then the comparison would be meaningless - of
course they saw different things - its comparing apples to oranges. But, this
must mean they saw the same (or similar) mareh but the clarity (the aspaklaria)
was clearer at the Yam. Yet if they saw the same mareh (and as you claim) the
pisron for the entire mareh is understood fully then they should have both seen
the same pisron!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>RYZ wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>I don't get it,
Kovesh Nvuosoi is Chayov Misah Byidei Shomayum (Rambam 9:2).<BR>Klapei Shmayo
Galya.</FONT><BR><BR>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good point, I agree.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>RYZ wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>So if a Novi has to relate even a Moshol w/o a Pisron, so what does
define<BR>what the Novi relates</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The simple answer is that it must be part and
parcel of the message the novi receives. Just as the intended recipient of the
nevuoh must be part of the nevuoh, so to is which part/s should be
transmitted. Even according to you, the novi can only understand which part to
repeat if somehow this was a part of the message he "understood on his own." (He
doesn't make this up on his own.)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>RYZ wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Again nowhere does the Rambam say that at times he doesn't understand
it or<BR>a part of it.<BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Although you are right - nowhere does the Rambam
state this explicitly. Nevertheless I think it is muchrach to be so, otherwise
how to differentiate between what the shifcha at kriasYam Suf and Yecheskel
ben Buzi saw (understood) of the Massei Merkava. I think he (Rambam) took this
as a given. But if you press me, I could read it into YT 7:6 where the Rambam in
differentiating nevuas Moshe states: "... roeh hadovor al buryov belo
chida ubelo moshol..." IE. It is the lack of clarity due to the aspaklaria that
leave the part of the pisron shrouded from the other neviim.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kol Tuv</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chaim Manaster</FONT></DIV>
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