[Avodah] (Neviim & Possible Mistakes); Akeidah & Yizchak

hankman salman at videotron.ca
Sun Jun 7 10:27:27 PDT 2009


RDR wrote:
So the nevuah can't be the mareh alone; it has to include the 
pitaron, and the prophet does not invariably understand it correctly.

CM responds:
I do not agree with these assertions you make.
Why not; why; absolutely not.

So the nevuah can't be the mareh alone; why not?
it has to include the pitaron, why?
and the prophet does not invariably understand it correctly. abolutely not.

RDR writes: (CM response in bold)
These arguments fail to distinguish between a nevuah and its pitaron; (they are both a part of the total nevuoh)
that the nevuah is correct need not imply that the navi understands it correctly. (the novi can not misunderstand the nevuoh!)
 A navi should know when he has received the pitaron and when he hasn't. (correct, he always does.)

RDR wrote:
We can test only some nevuot - - how would Yeshayahu's 
contemporaries have tested nevuot about the Messianic era?

CM responds:
I think you misunderstand RYZ's point. If mistake is admissible in nevuoh, then you could NEVER punish a novi sheker, so why would the Torah provide such a punishment. But in the instance of your query, perhaps not every nevuoh (from a novi muchzok) must be subject to test and punishable.

RDR wrote:
Rambam rules (Mamrim 2:1) that Sanhedrin may overrule a 
previous Sanhedrin's deductions from the Torah.  Similarly the 
authenticity of prophecy can be distinguished from the authenticity of 
its interpretation.

CM responds:
You are mixing apples and oranges. One does not follow from the other.

Kol Tuv

Chaim Manaster

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