[Avodah] (Neviim & Possible Mistakes); Akeidah & Yizchak

David Riceman driceman at att.net
Thu Jun 4 05:38:48 PDT 2009


Me:
>
>     See Daniel 12:8, Rashi and Ibn Ezra ad. loc
>      
>     RCM :
>     Daniel is not a problem for two reasons: 1) According to Rashi,
>     Megila 14a and gemara 3a, Daniel was not a Novi. (Although one
>     could understand Rashi as meaning he was a Novi but one without a
>     shlichus to give over his nevuoh to Yisroel and thus not among the
>     48 and of lesser stature than the 3, Ch. Z. & M).
>
>  RYZ:
> See Maharatz Chayos, Mamar Divrei Nvi'im Divrei Kabalah, who discusses 
> Daniel and this Rashi, he also brings there that from the Rambam Hil 
> Yesodei Hatorah 7:2, is Muchach that he holds Daniel was a Novi. So 
> why bother as using this as an upshlog.
I don't own a Maharatz Hayos, but this is an immaterial distinction.  
See MN II:43 and II:45 that the mechanism is identical.  In the first of 
these his two examples are Zecharyah and Daniel.

Incidentally, see Zecharyah 4:4-5, for another example of a navi saying 
he doesn't understand a nevuah (though admittedly the Rambam in the 
source I cited understands this as an explanation of the process of nevuah).
>  RYZ:
>  
> IMHO the whole Kashe has no place since this Possuk was a Chelek of 
> the Nvuoh itself, IOW HKB"H wanted that Daniel should not understand 
> and ask and be answered, which is vital in the Nkudah that it is Sosum.
This is true, but it doesn't invalidate the problem, since there is a 
whole class of prophecies meant not to be understood, which contradicts 
RCM's claim.  I cited two examples, and you (basically agreed) as follows:

RYZ:
<<WRT Bil'am it was all part of the Nvuoh, IOW that is what HKB"H wanted 
for him to go through all those steps, (to show how evil he was, as the 
Possuk says the Lman Daas Tzidkas Hashem WRT to Bilom)
 
Which is also Pshat in  "Es Bincha" and "Al Tishlach">>

Though I would pick one nit: haba l'tamei pos'him lo but not m'sayyin 
oso, so I think it's improper to say that "HKB"H wanted" him to do evil.

Incidentally, there's another example in Rashi Shmini 10:3 s.v. "hu 
asher diber".

David Riceman



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