[Avodah] goy vs chiloni

Eli Turkel eliturkel at gmail.com
Sat May 30 12:27:30 PDT 2009


I gave a shiur on shabbat on a halacha of . Zilberstein that to me had a
surprising chiddush

The question was if a chiloni opened the front door by pushing an electronic
button could one enter the building? (lets assume CI for electricity)
He answer was that yes because one did not have direct benefit from
the chillul shabbat but what he call "mavriach ari",  He then asked asked a
question from a MB who disallows using the contents of a put when a Gentile
opened the cover on shabbat for a Jew. Why should it be different?

His answer was that the was a decree against amira le-akum and so a knas
if one did request (or was done for his benefit). There is no such decree
against a nonobserving Jew.
The upshot is the action of a Jew on shabbat can be kulah then that of a goy
(Of course one cannot benefit from a direct chillul shabbat but here it
is indirect - mavriach ari)

I thought of a similar case were according to most poskim a chutz learetz Jew
can ask an Israeli Jew to fo melachah on the second day of yomtov but he
cant ask a goy.

Nevertheless it seems strange that a goy doing benefit on shabbat is more chamur
in some cases than a chiloni doing work

-- 
Eli Turkel



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