[Avodah] simchas yom tov

Shlomo Pick picksh at mail.biu.ac.il
Tue May 19 15:25:29 PDT 2009


The following argument was suggested:

There are opinions that allow one to daven early and even make 

Kiddush early. Also, waiting to daven after Tzeis is a D'Rabbonon. 

However, simchas Yom Tov is a D'oreisa. Most people do not enjoy 

beginning to eat at say 9:30. For kids it is particularly difficult. 

Therefore, davening after Tzeis and then beginning to eat late 

conflicts with the simchas Yom Tov of many. How can this D'Rabbonon 

take precedence over simchas Yom Tov?

 

In the areivim list I suggested that concerning simchas yom tov at nite:

Not so simple about that simchas yom tov, some authorities hold there is no
simchas yom tov at nite, but only in the daytime in accordance with korbanot
hachag. Accordingly, eat your beef and drink that wine in the day time.  The
only nite that simcha is mandated is leil shmini atzeres which has a special
limud (ribbui).

 

Now that the above argument has become more sophisticated with d'rabbanons
and d'oraitas involved, let's not forget that most mainstream rishonim and
posekim hold that keriyat shma should be recited after tzeis.  This was then
combined with birchot keriyas shma to be recited after tzeis. The Rosh who
represents minhag ashkenaz and others record that one should say tefila with
the congregation but wait with keriyat shma and brachos until after tzeis
According to all these posekim, davening immediately after sunset is a
bedieved situation.  Mention was made of Jacob Katz's article about the
development of the custom to daven early, and how with the vilna gaon and
the Chassidim and the advent of normal clocks, they went back to the old
time religion of the first mishna of brachot and wait with arvit so that
keriyas shma and brachot should be said on time.

So perhaps the argument should be reversed: on the day of accepting the
torah one should look not look for kulos (lenient rulings) but return to the
pristine halakha of the very first mishna in sha'as as poskened by the
majority of rishonim and posekim and say keriyat shma with brachot bezmano. 

I will add a drash I heard Monday nite from the stropkover rebbe on the
yahrzeit of his mother.  Last shabbos we learned the first rashi on the
parsha of ma inyan shmitta etzel Sinai.  His drasha was shmitta from the
same root lehishtameit, like from the army, draft dodging.  Rashi is asking
why does one try to dodge Sinai, the mitzvoth of Sinai, for everything in
one way or another was given on Sinai.  The answer is in the first rashi of
the second parasha. Im bechukosai teileichu, and rashi says it means to be
ameilim batorah - not to daven up the tikkun but to be ameilim batorah -
that is what Talmud torah is about.

 

Chag sameiach

Shlomo

 

 

 

 

 

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