[Avodah] And Another Problem with When NOT to Lie for Peace

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Tue Dec 30 13:41:19 PST 2008


On Wed, December 24, 2008 9:25 pm, R Meir Rabi wrote:
: The Gemara brings proof from the bros of Yosef lying to Yosef that one
: is permitted to lie for peace. They invented a fictitious command
: issued from YaAkov before his demise, that the bros should be
: forgiven by Yosef.

: Can it be that in circumstances where they should be asking for
: Mechila and doing their utmost to mollify him, they are permitted to
: lie in order to make peace?

That wouldn't jibe with the gemara's other source, where HQBH modifies
Sarah's words "va'adoni zaqein" to "va'ani zakanti".

If my experience is typical, the gemara is usually understood as
bringing two proofs to reinforce the point about the tzad hashaveh --
one may edit the truth for peace. Not about mechilah.

SheTir'u baTov!
-micha

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