[Avodah] And Another Problem with When NOT to Lie for Peace

[Meir Rabi]

The Gemara brings proof from the bros of Yosef lying to Yosef that one is
permitted to lie for peace. They invented a fictitious command issued from
YaAkov before his demise, that the bros should be forgiven by Yosef.

 

Can it be that in circumstances where they should be asking for Mechila and
doing their utmost to mollify him, they are permitted to lie in order to
make peace?

And we can't propose that they already did the max to gain his forgiveness
but Yosef had stubbornly refused to forgive, because had that been the case,
there would have been no consequences later with the martyrs. When an
aggressor has been through all the steps and brought the Shura of friends he
need do no more.

Would you accept the possibility that there was a misunderstanding and that
Yosef thought he had let them know that he had not forgiven them and that
they at the same time thought that their attempts to appease Yosef had been
accepted?

 

meir

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