[Avodah] Spicing your cholent on Shabbos

Yosef Gavriel Bechhofer rygb at aishdas.org
Sun Oct 12 18:53:46 PDT 2008


This is obviously not quite as lenient an approach as that of the Zekan 
Aharon, because RMF evidently would not be mattir the spicing of the 
cholent, as the spice is not a davar lach, or so at least it would seem.

KT, GYT,
YGB

kennethgmiller at juno.com wrote:
> R' Yosef Gavriel Bechhofer asked:
>   
>> ... was asked if one can pour cold soup onto hot potatoes
>> in a keli sheni, and he wrote that the Maharshal (Shach,
>> YD 105:5) who paskens that a davar gush is in a mevashel
>> in a keli sheni is not oisgehalten l'ma'aseh - and especially
>> not b'makom Oneg Shabbos.
>>     
>
> I presume that the soup you're mentioning is not an uncooked soup, but had been cooked previously, and is now cold.
>
> If so, this sounds exactly like Rav Moshe Feinstein's teshuva about putting ketchup on a piece of hot meat in a kli sheni (Igros Moshe O"C 4:74:5, or Rav Eider on Shabbos vol 4, #18 of RMF's teshuvos in the back). He says that both "davar gush is mevashel in a kli sheni" and "yesh bishul achar bishul b'davar lach" are chumros, but while we DO normally avoid them, they do not combine to forbid the situation under discussion.
>   
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