[Avodah] Spicing your cholent on Shabbos

kennethgmiller at juno.com kennethgmiller at juno.com
Wed Oct 8 05:08:07 PDT 2008


R' Yosef Gavriel Bechhofer asked:
> ... was asked if one can pour cold soup onto hot potatoes
> in a keli sheni, and he wrote that the Maharshal (Shach,
> YD 105:5) who paskens that a davar gush is in a mevashel
> in a keli sheni is not oisgehalten l'ma'aseh - and especially
> not b'makom Oneg Shabbos.

I presume that the soup you're mentioning is not an uncooked soup, but had been cooked previously, and is now cold.

If so, this sounds exactly like Rav Moshe Feinstein's teshuva about putting ketchup on a piece of hot meat in a kli sheni (Igros Moshe O"C 4:74:5, or Rav Eider on Shabbos vol 4, #18 of RMF's teshuvos in the back). He says that both "davar gush is mevashel in a kli sheni" and "yesh bishul achar bishul b'davar lach" are chumros, but while we DO normally avoid them, they do not combine to forbid the situation under discussion.

Akiva Miller

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