[Avodah] Chalav stam (moved from Areivim where it was: "Is this muzar, Virginia?" a totally different topic)

Noah Witty nwitty at optonline.net
Tue Dec 9 21:58:47 PST 2008


RMF, ztz"l, has four chalav yisrael/chalav stam teshuvos. If you follow 
them by the dates, it is remarkable how his language, meaning choice of
words, shifts and slides towards a nuanced chumra as the chronology 
roles forward--perhaps some of it due to the person/institution asking
the question, indicating special/different circumstances--while still 
adhering, as I recall, to the basic notion that we may without doubt 
rely upon the government's oversight.

For literalists, you might want to contact the O-U and inquire why/how 
they give hashgacha on take-out fleishiks (might apply to fish as well)
that, in fact, does not have 2 chosamos.  I called and was told that the 
purpose of the chosamos was to make the package tamper-evident. I am
puzzled by the circumvention of the literal words of the gemara--but we 
know that about 600-800 years ago Tosafos already did this for clapping
hands on Shabbos and YT. 


Thoughts?

Noach Witty
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